The Rules of Acquisition: A Star Trek Deep Space Nine Podcast
Treachery, Faith, and the Great River (DS9 S7E06)

Treachery, Faith, and the Great River (DS9 S7E06)

March 20, 2019

What happens in this episode? [See title of episode]

The final installment  of the Ferengi Pickers Cycle.  Kira’s boyfriend also gets an interesting story! 

Does DS9 actually do faith ok in this episode? 

“Back massages,” huh? 

Do the Ferengi’s crony capitalism superpowers have any place in the Federation?

Is Sisko being a jerk captain here? 

The individuality of clones.  Do we have trouble waiting for a third act turn that didn’t come? Defect; Defective. 

Female Changeling, you look rough. 

Rule 168: Keep it on the DL.  What is Ferengi gay subculture like in a repressive society? 

First set of ears?  Ferengis are gross. 

Vorta creation myths and religion discussed. 

Only a god would ever think to hide by going on silent running.  Wait.  Does Odo need to breathe? 

A pause to throw shade at Discovery and fandom maintenance. 

Vorta’s have an off button.   

Kira [and the writers] have a good take on religion and faith. 

Think they may do even more stories about her boyfriend?  Be nice to Weezer fans, y’all. 

2309: A good vintage for bloodwine.  Ok, let’s talk about capitalism and profit in Nog’s scheming.  What is Ferengi culture’s endpoint?  Some aliens can’t get enough cancer. 

Is DS9 screwing up my luxury gay space communism?   

Could this have been a 5th season episode? 

Let us know what you think! 

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Chrysalis (DS9 S7E05)

Chrysalis (DS9 S7E05)

March 13, 2019

One Flew Back to the Cuckoo's Nest. Do Re OH NO.

Julian brings a patient out of a catatonic state and what's the first thing he does after?  

Julian. Your ethics, man.  Has he learned anything over the seasons?  How toxic is the masculinity?  Are we supposed to be rooting for him or not?  How does Miles feel about Julian’s situation? 

Consent.  Do they have it?  Did Julian seek it hard enough? 

Was there actually a story about the expectations we put on women and the assumptions men make? Or was Wade making things up about this episode and stretching the bounds of what the writing can allow?  Was he overthinking it? Speaking of overthinking:

Is accusing someone of “overthinking” an episode a dead end that negates any discussion or is it possible to harp on one detail too much ?   

Oh boy, we get back into the ethnoship debate.  You thought it was over?  Nobody can escape the ethnoship.  Forget it Jake, they're just better than you.

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Take Me Out to the Holosuite (DS9 S7E04)

Take Me Out to the Holosuite (DS9 S7E04)

March 6, 2019

A haughty Vulcan challenges the emotional Sisko to a game of baseball and we got us a shenanigans episode, y'all!  But what's this about an ethnoship?  Take me out, please. 

Secrets of Rom. 

A premise well deployed. 

Wait, not the Bad News Bears, but… was this based on an old tv show? 

An… ethnoship?   Oh boy we’re gonna talk about racism. 

USS Vidal Sassoon. 

Is it a weird message if the superior  Vulcans end up overpowering the diverse non Vulcans? 

Buckle up!   

Does this episode show a different approach to the Vulcans than other Trek has embraced up until this point? 

Is it presumptuous for the nerds writing this show to suppose that winning a sports game isn’t the most important victory? 


What is the nature of the truth in Kasidy and Ben Sisko’s relationship?    

How many ways can James talk over, not listen to, or make assumptions about Wade’s points? [Hi, Wade wrote these notes].

Now, what does memory alpha say about ethnoships?

Is there any merit to a story that shows victory in defeat?   

Closing up facts: 

Wait. WHO is Cirroc Lofton’s uncle?!

Black hats.  Padres and Yankees.    

Chekhov’s Fancy Dan.   

Federation anthem? 

Manufactured triumph. Here here! 

Just when you think you’re done… MORE ETHNOSHIP.

Even if it’s not analogous, is it a problem if someone reinterprets a story to make racist analogies? 

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Afterimage (DS9 S7E03)

Afterimage (DS9 S7E03)

February 27, 2019

Does Ezri Dax even want to be on Deep Space Nine?  Well of course she does, but the show needs an episode to integrate a counselor into station life.  Garak and Worf especially have some issues to deal with. 

Is season 7 back on track?

James wants more punch from the scripts.  Are James and Hugh overly demanding? 

Bashir: That Staring Guy. 

For a brief scene it turns into a John Hugh’s movie. 

How was the script thrown a curveball by the later casting? 

Is new Dax a manic pixie? 

Does Sisko misuse Starfleet shenanigans to promote someone who isn’t ready?  Wait. Do counselors have medical degrees? 

Does Sisko need more grief counselling?    

What works about Ezri and how could they have gone further differentiating the character?  Bee Arthur Dax! 

“This Delta VIP lounge, where I died.”

Why would you fight the lionizing battle of an unjust war perpetrated for empire? 

Gross Quark and Julian is gross. 

Is Garak more normal than he used to be? 

How weird is Sisko again?   Does it take for granted the Dax/Sisko relationship more than we do? 

Oops, Garak broke again.

Hugh loves ear sex stuff. 

Were we lacking more of Worf’s perspective?  How might his story have been milked differently? 

New trope! Worf has a problem? Get the bloodwine, O’brien! 

What happened to cagey Garak?   Does DS9 sacrifice character for story?  Does Andrew Robinson rise above it?   Reptile brain.   

NOT based on an old movie? How about that?   

Odo and Kira:  Creepy old couple. 

Have we said they need women on the writers staff?  How would Shondaland have made this work emotionally? 

James has a “How would we fix it?” to repair the last scene with Dax and Worf? 

How are we approaching DS9 now that we’re older?  How much have we aged or changed  since the podcast began? 

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Shadows and Symbols (DS9 S7E02)

Shadows and Symbols (DS9 S7E02)

February 20, 2019

We learn a little something about Ben Sisko's origin. OH, and it's time to spend more time with that "Ezri Dax" that showed up at the end of last episode.

Research:  Website coming soon.

Ezri: No stumbling out the gate on this one.

Would we have still preferred some stunt casting?  What was the thinking behind another Nicole De Boer’s casting? 

What does Quark actually contribute? 

Never apologize, even if you’re Worf? 

Has Star Trek and DS9 been missing counselors since TNG? 

What if they’d actually gender shifted Dax? 

Admiral Ham Scully?   

An appreciation of techbobabble. 

Good ol’ desert scenes. James loves ‘em.   How does Brock Peters feel?

Damar drinks kanar. Is he unhappy? (yes).

What is the environmental impact of destroying part of a solar system? Should there be protests?  Mercury? We got no respect for ya. 

Is Admiral Ross not supportive enough of Kira? 

Vic gets replaced with a Mike Hammer refence for this episode.

Quark hears about gagh whilst in a klingon coffee shop. 

Does Sisko’s orb vision of Benny Russell cheapen “Far Beyond the Stars”?

Last Temptation of the Emissary? 

Good pacing and a plan comes together. 

Finally figuring out where Sisko’s specialness comes from. Is he a god, or just the tool of gods? -Sorry, noncorporeal wormhole aliens. 

How did all the plots relate to each other, or did they at all? 

Who dies offscreen? 

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Image in the Sand (DS9 S7E01)

Image in the Sand (DS9 S7E01)

February 13, 2019

Season Seven commences! Sisko is off the station again and everyone is trying to deal with the catastrophes of season Six.  What will the final season of Deep Space Nine entail?

The new status quo.  Odo … is fine.  

Killing who?   Film-what?  The Go-bots of streaming services.  

Religion again.  How topical!  


Worf’s grief.  What’s a Klingon to do?   Not be Liam Neeson, that’s for sure.  

A compliment for Behr.  

A Romulan with personality?  

Obrien with Scocth. Damar! With Kanar.  

Sisko plays Skyrim.  Did Sisko’s Cajun Kitchen change?  

Worf is not a merry man.  Does Vic get better with repetition?  What happened to the reset button?   

The Bechdel Test gets passed again.  Feel like that merits mentioning.  

Just what is it like being around Avery Brooks?  

For the love of Romulans.  Are they more well adjusted than Vulcans?  Boomers, man.  An idea for Discovery.  

A couple of nice minor acting moments.  

I need more pads.  For piddling.  

Nice, believable politics.  

Clams, not potatoes. Point: Wade.  

What do you think about Sisko’s white robes? Is it a thing for anyone?  

The Jackie Brown of season openers.     

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DS9 Season 6: The White Album

DS9 Season 6: The White Album

February 6, 2019

Our White Albums for Season 6! It's that time again, where we each cut a full 26 90's season of television into a concise modern 8 to 12 episode series.

Turns out we line up pretty well.  What did we keep and what got cut? 

What happened to Dax in this season?  Did we keep any Ferengi episodes? 

No Half Measures on serialization.  [Ok, and a few minor knocks on Discovery].

Hypothetical: If you could get rid of the worst episodes of this season if you also had to get rid of “Far Beyond the Stars,” would you make that deal?

How far can unearned confidence take a show? 

How much do we remember going into season 7? 

Give us your own White Albums or tell us what we got wrong about ours

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Tears of the Prophets (DS9 S6E26)

Tears of the Prophets (DS9 S6E26)

January 30, 2019

Season Six is over!  Does it die with a bang, or a whimper?  The Dominion War reaches a crucial moment.  This is not how we want to say goodbye to our space friends.  

Are the pieces rushed into place? And does this episode wrap things up satisfactorially? 

How many of the pieces here are nothing we want to watch? 

[Just a small bit of argumentation]

Did the creators overestimate how invested we were in some of these stories?

What is the big choice Sisko has to make? 

The least anemic thread of this episode! 

Isolating story threads and rushed serialization. 

What kind of hero’s death is walking to church? 

How hamfisted is Dukat shoehorned back into Cardassia’s good graces? 

Is it just to hit religious themes harder? 

What was in the original script for Jadzia?  Did they blow all the budget on a Star Wars space fight?  Is that why Dax got short-changed? 

Manless warfare in the 24th century (and late 90s). 

Was Brooks on melatonin in this ep? 

Muscles or Potatoes?  Vests, vests, vests.   

Nerd Corner for when Sisko passes out on the bridge.    

Real convenient for Dukat to just show up, huh? 

Do all the Dominion scenes go against sense and reason?  A lot of good people on both sides. 

TV and pat solutions to logical problems that fail to satisfy, 

What is the very least effort that Jadzia deserved  for a sendoff?

Is it a shame that the prophets’ “death” is the more consequential? 

But hey, the final season is now set to begin with a big change in the status quo.   

Faith, science, and religion: Should Sisko struggle more with it?  What happens if one of us has a body to bury? 

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The Sound of Her Voice (DS9 S6E25)

The Sound of Her Voice (DS9 S6E25)

January 23, 2019

Sisko and the crew become best friends with a voice on the radio.

A return to A plot/B plot structures. And some adventures in the beta quadrant.

We pretty much liked this episode.  The 500th episode of Star Trek across all its series.

Who’s that voice? 

Kasidy Yates, we missed you (but maybe Sisko didn’t?).

Star Trek finally highlights the bad parts of socialist countries - with Odo’s over reliance on regulations.

How do you know you’re in the Vegan sector? 

A new Bashir? Again?  A character always in the shop. 

Lisa Cusack:  A refreshing interesting character for a guest voice.  Why not do that for other characters? 

A heavy dose of foreshadowing. 

Spoilers: We revealed a certain secret ages ago. 

Preoccupied Sisko LOVES ipads! 

Why do writers write so often about therapy? 

Sidebar: P.T. Anderson and The Master. 

Does the advent of ubiquitous internet have any bearing on how this story developed? 

Ol’ Cavey gets a blue wet makeover. 

That B plot, did it have a twist?  It’s earnestness throws us for a loop. 

“Woah Jeff! We didn’t realize it was this bad!” 

The 285th Rule: Another human cliche. 

How is Odo broken again?  How has he fundamentally changed from the core identity of his character? 

Setting up the pieces of this season and setting up for next episode.  Making loss mean something. 

Is Tom Paris like Julian Bashir? Homer Simpson? 

Poor Harry Kim.    

We're nearly on the same page with this episode. How do you feel?

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Time’s Orphan (DS9 S6E24)

Time’s Orphan (DS9 S6E24)

January 16, 2019

Molly falls down a space-well and comes out ten years older - and pretty damaged.

Must O’Brien suffer, or must we?

Are the writers taking other meetings at this point in 1998? 

Is time travel boring?  How many of these portals are there just lying around? 

Is this a typical Star Trek episode or does the family angle make it something else?  Does it being a rework of a TNG idea mean anything? 

The B plot: Written after the fact. 

What does “uninhabited” mean?   Does Molly’s feral-ness make any sense? 

What was the original pitch for what happened to her? 

Why not relocate to the planet since the holosuites are always booked up? 

“This is [Space] Us”

What are the temporal morals that Star Trek episodes expouse but also break every time? 

Should the O’Brien’s  get a dog? 

What are some more “Star Trek” ways to do this story? 

Where’s the Doctor Who prop hiding in this episode?

A sidebar on Kelvins and the Kelvin Universe. 

Does the Federation not have any drugs that could be more helpful for an anxious troubled child?

None of us are big fans of this episode, but some parts of it bother us more than others.

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Profit and Lace (DS9 S6E23)

Profit and Lace (DS9 S6E23)

January 9, 2019

Ferengi women get to wear clothes and Quark gets a sex change.

This episode, for all its faults… they only get worse with age.

All the great actors that get dragged into this…

Starting off, the episode is bad enough, and the end ain't any better.

How easy is it to compartmentalize and quarantine these bad episodes away from the good ones? 

Comparing ISB to Moffat.  

How do the showrunners stand by this one?  

But what can we say nice about this one? Some of the makeup? 

Addressing a problem with Ferengi society we’ve brought up in earlier episodes. 

What’s it say when a phone bank scene may be the highlight of the episode?  

What did Alexander Siddig do to try and redeem the episode, and did it “ruin” the fun of the episode? 

What happened to medical ethics again? 

We try to wrap our head around viewing this episode as marginalized people instead of 3 straight cis white guys -and fail utterly.  

Are there any ways they could have fixed this episode, that could have opened better story opportunities? 

Just when you think this episode has done enough, bring in a little gay panic. 

Going full Weinstein, even moreso than the cold open. 

Is there a documentary about the problems of this episode and this season? 

Did this episode think itself daring and progressive? 

Where does it stand among the worst Star Trek episodes?  Worse than Threshold, the Voyager slug episode?  

“One of the great classics of Star Trek” . 

The offensive hubris of well meaning white men.  

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Valiant (DS9 S6E22)

Valiant (DS9 S6E22)

January 3, 2019

Jake and Nog, behind enemy lines with a buncha teens!

Cadet Kelly Clarkson?

What starts off looking like a NohJay Ferengi Nagus episode takes a wrong turn and detour into a muddled mess.

Remember Star Trek The Motion Picture? Oh no, we usually keep that talk of certain horrible things to the Hashish and Superiority pod.

Is it the writing or the acting that's the worst culprit in this episode?

How many ways could this have been made better?  How bout we Rashomon this mofo?

Just why is this guy a bad captain?   

Comparing season 6 to season 2.

Let us know what you think about this episode or anything else we talk about! 

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Voicemail Hullaballoo (DS9 Season 6 check in)

Voicemail Hullaballoo (DS9 Season 6 check in)

December 31, 2018

See, we still do voicemails!

It's been tumultuous in the back half of season 6.  We hear voicemails from Greg, Warren, Adam, and read some emails.  

Can we get our minds right?

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The Reckoning (DS9 S6E21)

The Reckoning (DS9 S6E21)

December 26, 2018

Reckoning with a Bajor episode that goes full Ghostbusters.

We get on a Kim Kattrell tangent. Hugh Crawford does the math.  But wait, it’ll pay off later in the podcast.

Instead of our regular polar opinionsA decidely mixed bag of an episode.

Odo reduced to “the good boyfriend.”
Is the Nurse Ratched cadence infectious to other actors?
Hey, remember those Pah Wraiths?

Without Mad Men would we have a John Slattery Admiral?  Seems like we’d rather talk things other than this episode.

Why doesn’t Sisko get more political power or utility out of being the emissary?  Is Sisko unrealistically weak amongst the Bajorans?

It's a decidedly mixed bag of an episode. Or is it not? Let us know what you think!

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His Way (DS9 S6E20)

His Way (DS9 S6E20)

December 19, 2018

There's a new self aware Hologram in the world of Star Trek. Deep Space Nine gets its resident nostalgia laced crooner and self help guru.  Vic Fontaine, ladies and gentlemen.

First off. What we liked about this. Then… all the rest.

A self aware hologram?  What makes him so special and different from Moriarty? 

Who is the brain genius auteur responsible for this? 

Remember swing?  Is this a boomer episode?

Who shot down the production until they final were able to cast this episode? 

How do the actors feel about the relationship finally kicking off?

What does she see in him?  How much of her side of it is missing?

What are other ways to hook them up? Space drugs?

We wrangle with season 6.  Can we figure out what’s going on? 

How toxic is it to overly romanticize things, such as the past?   A common Star Trek problem? 

Does this predict incel culture?   Shakaar:  Total Chad. 


We take a small break to do a mini Gilmore Girls podcast before wrapping it up.

Are we too tough on Vic? On Odo and Kira? Ira Stephen Behr?  

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In the Pale Moonlight (DS9 S6E19)

In the Pale Moonlight (DS9 S6E19)

December 12, 2018

What is there to say? Is it the best Star Trek ever? Again?

Sisko looks straight into the camera and details some dark deeds.

Does this do anything to the dream of the Federation? Is it too good to make any of those complaints?

What IS the Federation based on? We try to lay that down at the beginning.  Are there systems the Fedration offers that make people better?  Was there some Grinch-ian transformation we all went through?

Really though this Deep Space Nine episode is just so well done, so does all that stuff even matter?

How was the original pitch for this? What role did Jake play in the orginal script?  What was the last element added?

Lodge 49, temp services, and that guy you hire under pressure who is maybe not the most reliable.

The 98th Rule of Acquisition! Been a while since we heard one of those.

A cut scene with Dax.

The roles we know Vreenak from. Or that actor anyway.

We have some disagreements over a damaged data rod. James takes Peter David’s side.

That last scene, huh? All the good lines are taken.


The episodes we’ve been talking up the most are over with.  Where do we go from here?

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Inquisition (DS9 S6E18)

Inquisition (DS9 S6E18)

December 5, 2018

Internal affairs (or perhaps another organization) arrives and Star Trek will never be the same.

Spoilers! The last 8 minutes of this DS9 ep reveal…


We spend some time up front elaborating on our issues with the Federation’s clandestine org.

We had the Maquis, but now another threat to the Federation principles.

“Judge Dredd is a part of Star Trek now”


Alexander Siddig’s ceiling. 

Doctors’ conferences, as fancy in the 24th century as 1997, but not the 21st.

Chekov’s shoulder (no not that Chekov).

William Sadler is pretty great.

A retrospective on past Bashir moments; it could have been a clip episode. The show even fixes a past Nerd Corner.

Is there really a spy on Deep Space Nine? Did Section 31 actually suspect Julian of being a Manchurian candidate?  Would it be better if it were a   pure recruitment effort?


James’ neediness as a viewer: Who gets it worse Wade or James’s wife? No contest. Only one has to watch The 100 with him.

What is going on behind the scenes in season 6? How hard is the lack of Robert Hewitt Wolf being felt?

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Wrongs Darker Than Death or Night (DS9 S6E17)

Wrongs Darker Than Death or Night (DS9 S6E17)

November 28, 2018

Kira's mom did WHAT? A big secret revealed and Kira goes into the past to verify it for herself.

Things that make you go hmm. What’s the deal with this episode?   

Kira and Dukat got some things to work out.

We may or may not appreciate the drive to tell this story. We have some disagreements about the implementation.

Time travel shenanigans. What kind of time travel rules are we using here, and is it a problem if they’re not clear?

So many nerd corner questions with the temporal mechanics.

What kind of way to kick off a story is this? How would we change it? What might have been a better way to structure the story?

How numb fisted was the sexual violence and treatment of power structures? Several Potential trigger warnings: Sexual violence. Bad and less bad political metaphors.    

Is it wrong to have tried to do Handmaids tail for a basic cable 1997 audience?

Did Nana Visitor’s input on the ending save this episode or only slightly mitigate the damage?

What is the deal with this season? Ups and downs and differences in opinions.    

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Change of Heart (DS9 S6E16)

Change of Heart (DS9 S6E16)

November 21, 2018

Worf and Jadzia hit a rough spot in their marriage. 

But first, is this B plot even a plot? What is a satisfying resolution? Opinions are surprisingly (or unsurprisingly) divided.

Terry Ferrell’s own behind the scenes life comes into play as we near the end of the season.

But Worf and Jadzia’s chemistry? It’s pretty great. 

Anti coagulant disruptors: Where do they come up with these kind of ideas? Is there a scifi book it could be from?  

Are there not strict starfleet regulations regarding married couples? Apparently not across the board. This confounds some of us.  Starfleet could learn something from Dunder Mifflin.  

The Sisko scene at the end brings up some of our issues with the Federation. 

Family: Why didn’t this end with Coronas?    

What is the deal with season 6? Is it a confident mess? A good season?  Why does Wade seem to like it so much more than James?

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Honor Among Thieves (DS9 S5E15)

Honor Among Thieves (DS9 S5E15)

November 14, 2018

O'Brien goes undercover! Noir it up.

Knives out!

Does a Donnie Brasco plot negate any worth of a mob episode?

James and Wade disagree mightily about the ways one can resolve a third act.  

When mixing genres is it necessary to transcend the classic tropes or is it ok to just do a noir well by it’s own rules? 

When it comes to acting, it’s all a matter of taste, apparently.

Who was the original Bilby?

Does this episode weaken the Orion Syndicate?

How bout Maniac though? Check it out on netflix. 

Wade is reminded of Shadowrun.

Cats from 20 years ago: Where are they now? Oh yeah…

What are all the red herrings in this episode?

Love amongst men, is that the central theme of the episode?

Should this have made being a gangster look more fun? Is that a failure of the episode? 

Do the green skinned aliens have anything to do with the Orion Syndicate? 

How does Rene Echevarria agree with us?

The cat: O’brien’s Sisko’s baseball.

Family: How important is it how we talk about how important they are? 

Netflix execs, we need a Deadwood Actor Playlist option!  

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One Little Ship (DS9 S6E14)

One Little Ship (DS9 S6E14)

November 7, 2018

Come along on a fantastic voyage with us! Miles, Julian, and Jadzia are shrunk down while the rest of the Defiant crew is overrun by Jem Hadar. Oh no.

Uh oh it’s a tiny ship episode. Think you know we’re going to feel about this episode? The answer just may surprise you!

Is this just what the doct- producer wanted after Far Beyond the Stars? Who wrote Rascals? … Oh.

“This guy gets it”

What “coulda been”s do we have for this episode? A new angle for the alphas. Also what if we ever went back to that.

Alphas are the second race but also there are seconds and elders and is this confusing?

The Seuss-ification of the Jem Hadar.

Remember Star Search? You bet we do!

Where do we rank this episode with other classic Deep Space Nine episodes? 

Michael Scott Vorta. Someone please write that fanfix for us.

What moment was almost in the script that may have killed the mood?

A Tron/Doctor Who set we’ll never see again.

What about the lightness of this episode speak to some of us while others don’t?

Don’t hate us Johnny Dangersously fan community! 

We need a hero!

Not much Odo in this huh? One ok moment. Maybe? 

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Far Beyond the Stars (DS9 S6E13)

Far Beyond the Stars (DS9 S6E13)

October 31, 2018

Who is the dreamer, Benjamin Sisko or Benny Russell?

Is this the best Star Trek episode ever made? The best Deep Space Nine?  On our most recent rewatch this episode feels more powerful than ever.

Instead of being a captain on a space station Ben Sisko finds himself wondering if he's actually a 1950s pulp scifi author.

What famous scifi writers are the characters in this episode analogs to?

Just how many ways does the system oppress lower class peoples?

What was the original pitch and how did ISB fix it?

What is the one performance that we sets us of arguing about?

Does the solution Albert gives totally undermine Benny’s story, or preserve some of the artistry? An argument ensues.

What about a proposed end of the series had to do with this episode?

That scene. You know the one. I mean, what about that scene, huh?

How do the 24th century framing sections of the episode actually fit with the the main 1950s story?

How influenced was this influenced by the Feldstein/Orlando EC comic story “Judgement Day”? Down with the Comics Code!

Why doesn’t DS9 do this kind of show all the time? Should they? Could they?

Is this episode as great as we think it is? Disagree? Wow. We need to hear from you then:

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Who Mourns For Morn (DS9 S6E12)

Who Mourns For Morn (DS9 S6E12)

October 24, 2018

Morn is dead. A Shenanigans Episode Reckoning commences! 

Wade is fresh off watching the DS9 documentary, “What We Left Behind,” and will brook no condemnation of a good Quark episode.

Star Trek: The Chex Mix of TV.

Is this episode above or below the Mendoza Line? 

How has streaming changed how we expect to be catered to with out televsion? Is there a thinner range of stories and tone that we will accept in our shows, Star Trek included? 

How do we think Rick Berman is doing?

Is there a difference between “high brow” and “light fun”?

Has anyone ever done this kind of thing in shows since?  Can we compare the show to Battlestar Galactica? Is that allowed.

Will the argument be resolved? Are there “good people on both sides”?


Half an hour in: What did this episode look like before extensive rewrites?

Just how well are the Morn in-jokes sold throughout the series?  Is this show lacking in some of the camrederie that was TNG’s strength?

How did the show do by Marc Alan Shephard?

How would James fix this more to his tastes? 

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Waltz (DS9 S6E11)

Waltz (DS9 S6E11)

October 17, 2018

Dukat waltzing Sisko around campfire, with  little bit of Misery. Is this a great or merely good episode?

Did the writers screw up by accidentally making Dukat too likable?  Do people need a correction. Wait, people like nazis? Is Marc Alaimo just that good?

Has Sisko been dialed down?

“Some things are complicated and some things you make complicated”

Are these Defiant scenes sleepy?  Wade disagrees with Hugh and James on a few aspects of the episode. Are the issues on the page or in the direction?

Dukat is struggling with his toxic mindset. 

The world is full of conventional villains. (See: Brazil)

Is Dukat as nice a guy as Richard Spencer?

How did this episode start out originally?

Imagine this episodes three years later after 2001.

A cut line had bad tidings for Jake.

Sisko stops seeing some things in shades of grey. Welcome to #theresistence, Ben.

Attachments, Hitler, and kittens.

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The Magnificent Ferengi (DS9 S6E10)

The Magnificent Ferengi (DS9 S6E10)

October 10, 2018

Magnificent [Six] Ferengi. On Deep Space Nine. Or Empok Nor.

Is this Magnificent Seven or not? The Infinity War of Ferengi episodes? Or is it.. Weekend at Bernies?

But who cares? Iggy Pop is in this one!

Magnificent yucks all around. The most Looney Tunes of episodes yet?

Why is this episode so much fun… for some?

What is that special something that Iggy Pop brings that makes this episode so memorable?

But what would we do differently? What would we change about this episode? Are there other movies we would of pulled from for a Ferengi story than old westerns?

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Statistical Probabilities (DS9 S6E09)

Statistical Probabilities (DS9 S6E09)

October 3, 2018

One Flew Over Asimov's Foundation. 

But no sign of Kai Ratched on Deep Space Nine for this one.  

Potsie! Who unlike Ralph the Mouth and James Cromwell, Hugh did NOT meet one time.  

Why are the augments wards of the state?  

Who are their Cuckoo’s Nest counterparts?  

Why must the nympho be constantly horizontal, Potsie?  

Syndication work: Explaining the Eugenics War.  

We get stuck in a Nerd Corner: Does the technology have convenient gaps? In Star Trek? Say it ain’t so. Why can’t the transporter just fix everything?  

Picking up Damar’s thin soup cues.  

The problems writers make in portraying intelligence and Sherlock Holmes fallacies.  

Madonna and Whore… not exactly the best Women Studies episode.  

Do the writers wish they’d done this with Bashir earlier or is this just a capitulation?  

Let’s talk about Asimov’s Foundation trilogy. You look foolish Nate Silver!  

Turning Julian into a kind of Spock to show limits of certain Star Trek ideologies.  

O’Brien and Bashir banter that works best.  

What does this episode have to do with a good ground game in Wisconsin?  

Is Bashir a KoE blind spot? 

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